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	<title>Comments on: EGR&#8217;s Great Tele Relic Experiment: And So The Work Begins&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Chutler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chutler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you consider having the body dip-stripped?  That&#039;s probably the fastest way to get poly off.  I had it done to a generic bass body years ago for $25.00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you consider having the body dip-stripped?  That&#8217;s probably the fastest way to get poly off.  I had it done to a generic bass body years ago for $25.00.</p>
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		<title>By: Muskoka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muskoka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m assuming the rock tumbler you bought has 2-6lb cans?  Is one of them large enough to take the bridge?  I&#039;m about to pull the trigger on one but won&#039;t if it doesn&#039;t have the ability to tumble the larger pieces of hardware.  Watching with very keen interest.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming the rock tumbler you bought has 2-6lb cans?  Is one of them large enough to take the bridge?  I&#8217;m about to pull the trigger on one but won&#8217;t if it doesn&#8217;t have the ability to tumble the larger pieces of hardware.  Watching with very keen interest&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stratoblogster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stratoblogster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Tom L &amp; Dave @Sans Direction.  Distressed guitars are positioned with Fender guitars.

Besides, Gibson&#039;s are more elegantly built-- with body binding, inlay work, arched tops, fixed neck, etc.

Now, as a twist, imagine someone paying $3K plus, for a real fancy Tom Anderson Strat-type, with flame maple top, binding, the works-- and proceeding to relic it.  Even relic fans would probably think the guy&#039;d lost his mind.

Straight stock Fenders seem to be the best platform for a relic job.  Or, some guys will dress &#039;em up with an MOT pickguard, shiny knobs and a pin-up decal.

Seems like a Les Paul is something that&#039;s complete as-is.  You polish it once in a while and leave it at that.

Larger hollow body Gibsons might see a Rock-a-billy treatment, a la Bigsby &amp; flame decals, but only if they&#039;re painted finish i.e. black.  Natural finishes and bursts are left alone.

That&#039;s just how I&#039;ve observed things to be.  There seems to be a tacit-agreement protocol with this stuff.

Then there&#039;s James Trussart...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Tom L &amp; Dave @Sans Direction.  Distressed guitars are positioned with Fender guitars.</p>
<p>Besides, Gibson&#8217;s are more elegantly built&#8211; with body binding, inlay work, arched tops, fixed neck, etc.</p>
<p>Now, as a twist, imagine someone paying $3K plus, for a real fancy Tom Anderson Strat-type, with flame maple top, binding, the works&#8211; and proceeding to relic it.  Even relic fans would probably think the guy&#8217;d lost his mind.</p>
<p>Straight stock Fenders seem to be the best platform for a relic job.  Or, some guys will dress &#8216;em up with an MOT pickguard, shiny knobs and a pin-up decal.</p>
<p>Seems like a Les Paul is something that&#8217;s complete as-is.  You polish it once in a while and leave it at that.</p>
<p>Larger hollow body Gibsons might see a Rock-a-billy treatment, a la Bigsby &amp; flame decals, but only if they&#8217;re painted finish i.e. black.  Natural finishes and bursts are left alone.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just how I&#8217;ve observed things to be.  There seems to be a tacit-agreement protocol with this stuff.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s James Trussart&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kardwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Kardwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 12:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favourite distressed guitars are the Joe Strummer Tele and the Rory Gallagher Strat. Hence my distaste for &quot;subtle, tasteful&quot; distressing. Those guitars looked like they were at death&#039;s door. Ironic, then, that they outlived their owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favourite distressed guitars are the Joe Strummer Tele and the Rory Gallagher Strat. Hence my distaste for &#8220;subtle, tasteful&#8221; distressing. Those guitars looked like they were at death&#8217;s door. Ironic, then, that they outlived their owners.</p>
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		<title>By: Sans Direction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sans Direction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, as an addition, what are the most famous distressed guitars out there?

SRV&#039;s Strat. Rory Gallagher&#039;s Strat. Eric Clapton&#039;s Brownie Strat. Of course it&#039;s the Strat guys who are going to try to make their MIM look like those ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, as an addition, what are the most famous distressed guitars out there?</p>
<p>SRV&#8217;s Strat. Rory Gallagher&#8217;s Strat. Eric Clapton&#8217;s Brownie Strat. Of course it&#8217;s the Strat guys who are going to try to make their MIM look like those ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Sans Direction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sans Direction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at a Gibson neck. It&#039;s rosewood or ebony. Step back from the guitar and you&#039;re not going to be able to see wear on that neck until you&#039;ve worn through the fretboard. Maple necks are different. Neil Young&#039;s guitar is a black-painted goldtop, but you wouldn&#039;t tell unless you saw it close. So that&#039;s one thing.

For the other thing, consider jeans. It&#039;s jeans that look good worn, so there&#039;s a market for worn, broken in jeans. There&#039;s a used jean market, and it used to be a thing to prematurely wear jeans so they look like they&#039;ve been worn out. I&#039;ve &quot;relic&#039;d&#039; jeans before. But you don&#039;t relic a tuxedo. you don&#039;t scruff up your cumberbund. something like a blackguard Tele than a bound custom, is like a t-shirt and jeans. A Gibson is like a nice suit.

To throw out a third thing, the story I heard was that Keef was asking the Fender CS for guitars and said &quot;I don&#039;t play new-looking guitars&quot;. That story came about and the CS started selling &#039;em to people like us, and they relic&#039;d Fenders because they&#039;re Fender. People suddenly thought &quot;You can do that? You can do that!&quot;, much like I thought when I realized that a little razor scraping and sandpaper and bleach could make jeans look aged. So, because Fender did it, they did it to Fenders.

Anyway, keep going. It&#039;s like a TDPRI build thread in reverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at a Gibson neck. It&#8217;s rosewood or ebony. Step back from the guitar and you&#8217;re not going to be able to see wear on that neck until you&#8217;ve worn through the fretboard. Maple necks are different. Neil Young&#8217;s guitar is a black-painted goldtop, but you wouldn&#8217;t tell unless you saw it close. So that&#8217;s one thing.</p>
<p>For the other thing, consider jeans. It&#8217;s jeans that look good worn, so there&#8217;s a market for worn, broken in jeans. There&#8217;s a used jean market, and it used to be a thing to prematurely wear jeans so they look like they&#8217;ve been worn out. I&#8217;ve &#8220;relic&#8217;d&#8217; jeans before. But you don&#8217;t relic a tuxedo. you don&#8217;t scruff up your cumberbund. something like a blackguard Tele than a bound custom, is like a t-shirt and jeans. A Gibson is like a nice suit.</p>
<p>To throw out a third thing, the story I heard was that Keef was asking the Fender CS for guitars and said &#8220;I don&#8217;t play new-looking guitars&#8221;. That story came about and the CS started selling &#8216;em to people like us, and they relic&#8217;d Fenders because they&#8217;re Fender. People suddenly thought &#8220;You can do that? You can do that!&#8221;, much like I thought when I realized that a little razor scraping and sandpaper and bleach could make jeans look aged. So, because Fender did it, they did it to Fenders.</p>
<p>Anyway, keep going. It&#8217;s like a TDPRI build thread in reverse.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>onechickentim:

Here&#039;s my opinion: Strats and Teles look really cool when they&#039;re banged up and heavily played. Gibson&#039;s don&#039;t.  I have two theories:

1. Gibson&#039;s &quot;fancier&quot; finishes (Cherry, Goldtops and flamed maple sunbursts) aren&#039;t conducive to looking hot when they are reliced.
2. Classic Gibson vintage guitars show a lot of weather checking but seldom show the kind of wear and tear you see on Fenders.  I&#039;m not sure why, but since the real deals don&#039;t look that way, neither will the relics.  That&#039;s why, IMO, Tom Murphy aged Les Pauls focus mainly on dull hardware and faded finishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>onechickentim:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my opinion: Strats and Teles look really cool when they&#8217;re banged up and heavily played. Gibson&#8217;s don&#8217;t.  I have two theories:</p>
<p>1. Gibson&#8217;s &#8220;fancier&#8221; finishes (Cherry, Goldtops and flamed maple sunbursts) aren&#8217;t conducive to looking hot when they are reliced.<br />
2. Classic Gibson vintage guitars show a lot of weather checking but seldom show the kind of wear and tear you see on Fenders.  I&#8217;m not sure why, but since the real deals don&#8217;t look that way, neither will the relics.  That&#8217;s why, IMO, Tom Murphy aged Les Pauls focus mainly on dull hardware and faded finishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>onechickentim:

Here&#039;s my opinion: Strats and Teles look really cool when they&#039;re banged up and heavily played. Gibson&#039;s don&#039;t.  I have two theories:

1. Gibson&#039;s &quot;fancier&quot; finishes (Goldtops and flamed maple sunbursts) aren&#039;t conducive to looking hot when they are reliced.
2. Classic Gibson vintage guitars show a lot of weather checking but seldom show the kind of wear and tear you see on Fenders.  I&#039;m not sure why, but</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>onechickentim:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my opinion: Strats and Teles look really cool when they&#8217;re banged up and heavily played. Gibson&#8217;s don&#8217;t.  I have two theories:</p>
<p>1. Gibson&#8217;s &#8220;fancier&#8221; finishes (Goldtops and flamed maple sunbursts) aren&#8217;t conducive to looking hot when they are reliced.<br />
2. Classic Gibson vintage guitars show a lot of weather checking but seldom show the kind of wear and tear you see on Fenders.  I&#8217;m not sure why, but</p>
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		<title>By: Mike V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, you are having way too much fun..  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, you are having way too much fun..  :)</p>
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		<title>By: onechickentim</title>
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		<dc:creator>onechickentim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome posts Carry, you&#039;re really tempting me to try this myself with a nasty (but nice) Jim Reed Les Paul copy I have.

Incidentally it seems to me that it&#039;s far easier to find reliced Strats &amp; Teles than it is Gibson, and most &quot;how to&quot; guides always seem to be concentrate on fenders and their ilk. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome posts Carry, you&#8217;re really tempting me to try this myself with a nasty (but nice) Jim Reed Les Paul copy I have.</p>
<p>Incidentally it seems to me that it&#8217;s far easier to find reliced Strats &amp; Teles than it is Gibson, and most &#8220;how to&#8221; guides always seem to be concentrate on fenders and their ilk. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to why?</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question Tom! No, I actually sanded down a bit too far along the edge and managed to hit wood with no stain on it whatsoever.

The heavy grit I was using and the fact that I was going against the grain pretty much turned the area white, so I threw in a bit of stain to bring it back to life.

Now that it&#039;s really dry it looks quite nice  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question Tom! No, I actually sanded down a bit too far along the edge and managed to hit wood with no stain on it whatsoever.</p>
<p>The heavy grit I was using and the fact that I was going against the grain pretty much turned the area white, so I threw in a bit of stain to bring it back to life.</p>
<p>Now that it&#8217;s really dry it looks quite nice  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kardwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Kardwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was checking out that Relic Deluxe site, and I mean it man, all the work over there is way-too-subtle. Sod that - kick the bugger down some stairs, whip it with chains!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was checking out that Relic Deluxe site, and I mean it man, all the work over there is way-too-subtle. Sod that &#8211; kick the bugger down some stairs, whip it with chains!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cary, this is awesome. A fascinating read. In that close-up of the body&#039;s edge, is that natural discoloration?

And who is this mysterious &quot;G&quot;?   ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cary, this is awesome. A fascinating read. In that close-up of the body&#8217;s edge, is that natural discoloration?</p>
<p>And who is this mysterious &#8220;G&#8221;?   ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Stratoblogster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stratoblogster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa!  This is great stuff!   I recently spoke with a guy who makes aged parts.  He uses a smoker for plastic parts and pickups.  Some electric food smokers have a &quot;cold smoke&quot; setting for doing cured stuff.  This setting doesn&#039;t melt or warp plastic parts.  Anyway, he says this is a good process for tinting pickguards, pickups and knobs.  Plus I guess you get that Texas smell...

Keep goin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa!  This is great stuff!   I recently spoke with a guy who makes aged parts.  He uses a smoker for plastic parts and pickups.  Some electric food smokers have a &#8220;cold smoke&#8221; setting for doing cured stuff.  This setting doesn&#8217;t melt or warp plastic parts.  Anyway, he says this is a good process for tinting pickguards, pickups and knobs.  Plus I guess you get that Texas smell&#8230;</p>
<p>Keep goin!</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rick... I&#039;m having a blast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rick&#8230; I&#8217;m having a blast!</p>
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